By Trungpa, Rinpoche Chogyam
"transcript of talks given via Chogyam Trungpa, Rinpoche on the fourth Vajradhatu Seminary, a twelve-week interval of in depth meditation and research, held at Land O'Lakes, Wisconsin September-November 1976"
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Discipline. " Discipline begins to evolve and develop, because you are not particularlytrying to fight any kind ofenemy, you are not trying to conquer anything at all. We are here for what? That's it-for what? That is the question as well as the answer, both at the same time. That is analogous to the nature of discipline. khrim). " We translate tsiiltim into English as "discipline" -maybe we should question the use of the English word "discipline" as a buddhist term. In the buddhist sense, being disciplined indicates that you do not have any personal self-justification.
Q: Is this why you call it an extension of yourself? It seems to be- R: What is "this"? ogression to "I want this cup of tea" -that it just is building up. R: "Me" is what? Q: "Me" is a composite? R: Yes, a composite. Skandha. Q: Then, is "I" more basic than that? " And the language of feeling, the second skandha, is "have," and so forth. " And "me" is the first skandha [form]. Anything else? Q: I'm curious about the tsiiltim sense of discipline. Does this come only with a sense of egolessness?
In vajrayana language, we use the word "crazy" -crazy wisdom. Crazy is utterly overleaping any possible mental games. The whole thing is completely scooped out and thrown away. So there is simultaneously a sense of tremendous outsmarting. You might outsmart yourself once, but if you outsmart yourself a hundred times, there is no room left for anybody to play a trick on you anymore at all. The whole thing is completely scooped out, scooped in and transcended. The idea of taking refuge in the Buddha is to emulate all of those qualities, to actually become like him.